Trauma doesn't care what we know, says therapist and EMDR trainer Erica Bonham. She and Ana talk through fight, flight, freeze, and fawn as physical strategies, a grounding practice rooted two inches below the navel, and how nervous system regulation quietly underwrites collective and social change.

Brendan Cournane ran more than 100 marathons across every U.S. state, all seven continents, and every World Marathon Major — then a coronary artery disease diagnosis mid-training stopped him. He talks about the false summits he kept chasing, and what his own heart finally made him listen to.

Michael Herr spent fifteen years climbing and a decade boxing before he understood why. The therapist and author of The Shadow of the Climber talks about how shame and the need to prove something can genuinely power athletic achievement — until a witnessed climbing accident left his body refusing to go near the mountains at all.

Suzanne Roberts talks about what it actually means to be disconnected from yourself, how that disconnection shows up not just in individuals, but in teams, institutions, and cultures, and why the body is the right place to start redesigning all of it. Suzanne is someone who has spent a lifetime asking the questions most systems are built to avoid.

Sydney Zwicker, founder of Sovereign Touch Bodywork and Pelvic Care, joins this episode to talk about the pelvis as the body's foundation — and what it means to touch it without an agenda to fix it. A conversation about trauma, the nervous system, and why healing moves in a spiral, not a line.